Comments for Bill Nieporte http://nieporte.name Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:30:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.9.9 Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by billnieporte http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36271 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:30:11 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36271 In reply to Gordon Holley.

Hello Mr. Holley,

How ever did you find my blog, much less this particular post? I do no think I have even made a new post since 2017. Do we know each other? Are we connected via social media? Are you on a pastor search committee? 🙂 Sadly, in the divisive world in which we live, I must request you clue me in on how you come to post on my blog.

Now, to your comment(s)

You wrote:

If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell

I actually did not say that. Please take a moment and reread carefully what I actually wrote. I am happy to defend my comments, but not you misquotes.

Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?

Fortunately, that’s not a risk I face. Sainthood is a gift of grace, not a achievement we attain by some sort of religious effort.

Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?

Probably not. I suspect, based on the tone of your comments and the way you start out clearly misquoting and misstating what I wrote, that you are unwilling to be convinced. Ultimately, battling it is not my calling or job to convince you as to the truth of the gospel. I said what I meant and meant what I said.

God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it.

It’s sad that you see humanity that way. Here’s how I see it!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are 1 John

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter

For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 1 Corinthians

And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galathians

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians

These words reflect who we are and I will plant myself in that picture painted by scripture.

How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

It’s LOVE that motivates me. Not fear.

…“there is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love” ( 1 John 4:18 ).

It sounds like fear is really central to your theology, especially when reading that last line you wrote. I will plant myself in love and stay there all day, all night, and all my life. That’s where freedom will be found.

I invite you to live into the freedom of grace.

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Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by billnieporte http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36270 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:29:39 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36270 In reply to Gordon Holley.

Hello Mr. Holley,

How ever did you find my blog, much less this particular post? I do no think I have even made a new post since 2017. Do we know each other? Are we connected via social media? Are you on a pastor search committee? 🙂 Sadly, in the divisive world in which we live, I must request you clue me in on how you come to post on my blog.

Now, to your comment(s)

You wrote:

If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell

I actually did not say that. Please take a moment and reread carefully what I actually wrote. I am happy to defend my comments, but not you misquotes.

Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?

Fortunately, that’s not a risk I face. Sainthood is a gift of grace, not a achievement we attain by some sort of religious effort.

Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?

Probably not. I suspect, based on the tone of your comments and the way you start out clearly misquoting and misstating what I wrote, that you are unwilling to be convinced. Ultimately, battling it is not my calling or job to convince you as to the truth of the gospel. I said what I meant and meant what I said.

God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it.

It’s sad that you see humanity that way. Here’s how I see it!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are 1 John

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter

For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 1 Corinthians

And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galathians

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians

These words reflect who we are and I will plant myself in that picture painted by scripture.

How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

It’s LOVE that motivates me. Not fear.

…“there is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love” ( 1 John 4:18 ).

It sounds like fear is really central to your theology, especially when reading that last line you wrote. I will plant myself in love and stay there all day, all night, and all my life. That’s where freedom will be found.

I invite you to live into the freedom of grace.

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Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by billnieporte http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36269 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:28:51 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36269 In reply to Gordon Holley.

Hello Mr. Holley,

How ever did you find my blog, much less this particular post? I do no think I have even made a new post since 2017. Do we know each other? Are we connected via social media? Are you on a pastor search committee? 🙂 Sadly, in the divisive world in which we live, I must request you clue me in on how you come to post on my blog.

Now, to your comment(s)

You wrote:

If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell

I actually did not say that. Please take a moment and reread carefully what I actually wrote. I am happy to defend my comments, but not you misquotes.

Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?

Fortunately, that’s not a risk I face. Sainthood is a gift of grace, not a achievement we attain by some sort of religious effort.

Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?

Probably not. I suspect, based on the tone of your comments and the way you start out clearly misquoting and misstating what I wrote, that you are unwilling to be convinced. Ultimately, battling it is not my calling or job to convince you as to the truth of the gospel. I said what I meant and meant what I said.

God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it.

It’s sad that you see humanity that way. Here’s how I see it!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are 1 John

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter

For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 1 Corinthians

And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galathians

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians

These words reflect who we are and I will plant myself in that picture painted by scripture.

How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

It’s LOVE that motivates me. Not fear.

…“there is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love” ( 1 John 4:18 ).

It sounds like fear is really central to your theology, especially when reading that last line you wrote. I will plant myself in love and stay there all day, all night, and all my life. That’s where freedom will be found.

I invite you to live into the freedom of grace.

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Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by billnieporte http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36268 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:28:05 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36268 In reply to Gordon Holley.

Hello Mr. Holley,

How ever did you find my blog, much less this particular post? I do no think I have even made a new post since 2017. Do we know each other? Are we connected via social media? Are you on a pastor search committee? 🙂 Sadly, in the divisive world in which we live, I must request you clue me in on how you come to post on my blog.

Now, to your comment(s)

You wrote:

If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell

I actually did not say that. Please take a moment and reread carefully what I actually wrote. I am happy to defend my comments, but not you misquotes.

Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?

Fortunately, that’s not a risk I face. Sainthood is a gift of grace, not a achievement we attain by some sort of religious effort.

Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?

Probably not. I suspect, based on the tone of your comments and the way you start out clearly misquoting and misstating what I wrote, that you are unwilling to be convinced. Ultimately, battling it is not my calling or job to convince you as to the truth of the gospel. I said what I meant and meant what I said.

God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it.

It’s sad that you see humanity that way. Here’s how I see it!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are 1 John

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter

For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 1 Corinthians

And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galathians

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians

These words reflect who we are and I will plant myself in that picture painted by scripture.

How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

It’s LOVE that motivates me. Not fear.

…“there is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love” ( 1 John 4:18 ).

It sounds like fear is really central to your theology, especially when reading that last line you wrote. I will plant myself in love and stay there all day, all night, and all my life. That’s where freedom will be found.

I invite you to live into the freedom of grace.

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Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by billnieporte http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36267 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:26:49 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36267 In reply to Gordon Holley.

Hello Mr. Holley,

How ever did you find my blog, much less this particular post? I do no think I have even made a new post since 2017. Do we know each other? Are we connected via social media? Are you on a pastor search committee? 🙂 Sadly, in the divisive world in which we live, I must request you clue me in on how you come to post on my blog.

Now, to your comment(s)

You wrote:

If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell

I actually did not say that. Please take a moment and reread carefully what I actually wrote. I am happy to defend my comments, but not you misquotes.

Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?

Fortunately, that’s not a risk I face. Sainthood is a gift of grace, not a achievement we attain by some sort of religious effort.

Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?

Probably not. I suspect, based on the tone of your comments and the way you start out clearly misquoting and misstating what I wrote, that you are unwilling to be convinced. Ultimately, battling it is not my calling or job to convince you as to the truth of the gospel. I said what I meant and meant what I said.

God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it.

It’s sad that you see humanity that way. Here’s how I see it!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are 1 John

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter

For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 1 Corinthians

And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galathians

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians

These words reflect who we are and I will plant myself in that picture painted by scripture.

How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

It’s LOVE that motivates me. Not fear.

…“there is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love” ( 1 John 4:18 ).

It sounds like fear is really central to your theology, especially when reading that last line you wrote. I will plant myself in love and stay there all day, all night, and all my life. That’s where freedom will be found.

I invite you to live into the freedom of grace.

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Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by billnieporte http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36266 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:21:13 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36266 In reply to Gordon Holley.

Hello Mr. Holley,

How ever did you find my blog, much less this particular post? I do no think I have even made a new post since 2017. Do we know each other? Are we connected via social media? Are you on a pastor search committee? 🙂 Sadly, in the divisive world in which we live, I must request you clue me in on how you come to post on my blog.

Now, to your comment(s)

You wrote:

If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell

I actually did not say that. Please take a moment and reread carefully what I actually wrote. I am happy to defend my comments, but not you misquotes.

Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?

Fortunately, that’s not a risk I face. Sainthood is a gift of grace, not a achievement we attain by some sort of religious effort.

Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?

Probably not. I suspect, based on the tone of your comments and the way you start out clearly misquoting and misstating what I wrote, that you are unwilling to be convinced. Ultimately, battling it is not my calling or job to convince you as to the truth of the gospel. I said what I meant and meant what I said.

God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it.

It’s sad that you see humanity that way. Here’s how I see it!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are 1 John

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 1 Peter

For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? 1 Corinthians

And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God. Galathians

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Galatians

These words reflect who we are and I will plant myself in that picture painted by scripture.

How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

It’s LOVE that motivates me. Not fear.

…“there is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love” ( 1 John 4:18 ).

It sounds like fear is really central to your theology, especially when reading that last line you wrote. I will plant myself in love and stay there all day, all night, and all my life. That’s where freedom will be found.

I invite you to live into the freedom of grace.

God finds us to be

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Comment on It’s Not About Heaven Or Hell by Gordon Holley http://nieporte.name/heaven-or-hell.html/comment-page-1#comment-36265 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:32:12 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=4633#comment-36265 If Christianity isn’t about escaping hell, Would you be willing to worship God and attain all of the prizes of a fulfilling Christian life and a sainthood on the level of John the Baptist and Elijah, but do so knowing that you were still going to be sent to be tortured without escape or relief forever and ever?
Can you prove to me that all of the things about Christianity are not auxilliary to the ability to avoid a fate infinitely worse than non-existence?
God finds us guilty of being imperfect, and sentences us to limitless punishment for it. How can you find anything more motivating, without ignoring this fact, and pushing it to the back of your mind?

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Comment on The Implications of the Doctrine of the Trinity on the Christian Life (Part 1) Video and Manuscript Sermon by Sean http://nieporte.name/trinity-3.html/comment-page-1#comment-36262 Thu, 16 Apr 2020 07:56:31 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=3846#comment-36262 I am studying THE520 Selected Topics in Systematic Theology at Capital Seminary and its 4am because I cannot sleep. My final paper is on how the Trinity changes your life, church and ministry.

Thank you for pointing me to perichoresis. I had heard the term and have read it in my textbooks but it was described as “mutual indwelling”.

Your explanation of the dance makes my heart sing.

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Comment on Home by Margie (LeCato) Hyslop http://nieporte.name/comment-page-1#comment-36261 Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:19:48 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?page_id=3567#comment-36261 Want to thank you for filling in some of the blanks on Burleigh Tatum. When I was a kid growing up in Franktown, so many summer days I saw a man and his shepherd (dog) pass by and wave. That was a common thing back home, but his wave was genuine and, well, you got to like a man who lets his dog ride in the front seat. Years later I asked who that man might be and heard it was Burleigh Tatum. Funny the things you remember about a regular passerby to whom you never had spoken but his wave always seemed so warm. Your funeral talk about him helped much of it make sense.
To me he was a reminder that the little kindnesses matter. Thanks.

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Comment on The End of the Road – Last Service of Patterson Avenue Baptist by Paul Simmons http://nieporte.name/end-of-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-35840 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:15:46 +0000 http://nieporte.name/?p=5089#comment-35840 Well said. Pathos and irony in the truth of passing life on through the death of faithful witness. Blessings, Paul Simmons

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